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Mr. Sherman opposed the election by the people, insisting that it ought to be by the State Legislatures. The people he said, immediately should have as little to do as may be about the Government. They want information and are constantly liable to be misled. Mr. Gerry. The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. The people do not want virtue; but are the dupes of pretended patriots. In Massts. it has been fully confirmed by experience that they are daily misled into the most ba
Also tagged as: Excess of Democracy, The People, Republic, Class, British Constitution, State Legislature, House of Commons
Mr. Butler apprehended that the taking so many powers out of the hands of the States as was proposed, tended to destroy all that balance and security of interests among the States which it was necessary to preserve; and called on Mr. Randolph the mover of the propositions, to explain the extent of his ideas, and particularly the number of members he meant to assign to this second branch. Mr. Randf. observed that he had at the time of offering his propositions stated his ideas as far as the na
Also tagged as: The States, State Sovereignty, State Legislatures, Senate, House of Representatives, Democratic Election, Democracy, Federalism
Mr. Gerry sees no necessity for so great a controul over the legislature as the best men in the Community would be comprised in the two branches of it. Docr. Franklin, said he was sorry to differ from his colleague for whom he had a very great respect, on any occasion, but he could not help it on this. He had had some experience of this check in the Executive on the Legislature, under the proprietary Government of Pena. The negative of the Governor was constantly made use of to extort money.
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Mr. Gerry. Much depends on the mode of election. In England, the people will probably lose their liberty from the smallness of the proportion having a right of suffrage. Our danger arises from the opposite extreme: hence in Massts. the worst men get into the Legislature. Several members of that Body had lately been convicted of infamous crimes. Men of indigence, ignorance & baseness, spare no pains however dirty to carry their point agst. men who are superior to the artifices practiced. He was n
Also tagged as: Mode of Election, Suffrage, Aristocracy, Monarchy, The People, National Government, State Legislature, Election Districts, The States
Mr. Randolph was for the term of 7 years. The Democratic licentiousness of the State Legislatures proved the necessity of a firm Senate. The object of this 2d. branch is to controul the democratic branch of the Natl. Legislature. If it be not a firm body, the other branch being more numerous, and coming immediately from the people, will overwhelm it. The Senate of Maryland constituted on like principles had been scarcely able to stem the popular torrent. No mischief can be apprehended, as the co
Also tagged as: Term Limits, The People, Democracy, The States, Legislative Branch, Second Branch of National Legislature, Abuse, Stability
Mr. Hamilton, had been hitherto silent on the business before the Convention, partly from respect to others whose superior abilities age & experience rendered him unwilling to bring forward ideas dissimilar to theirs, and partly from his delicate situation with respect to his own State, to whose sentiments as expressed by his Colleagues, he could by no means accede. The crisis however which now marked our affairs, was too serious to permit any scruples whatever to prevail over the duty imposed o
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Mr. Madison. In order to judge of the form to be given to this institution, it will be proper to take a view of the ends to be served by it. These were first to protect the people agst. their rulers: secondly to protect the people agst. the transient impressions into which they themselves might be led. A people deliberating in a temperate moment, and with the experience of other nations before them, on the plan of Govt. most likely to secure their happiness, would first be aware, that those char
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General Pinkney proposed that a Committee consisting of a member from each State should be appointed to devise & report some compromise. Mr: L. Martin had no objection to a Commitment, but no modifications whatever could reconcile the Smaller States to the least diminution of their equal Sovereignty. Mr. Sharman. We are now at a full stop, and nobody he supposed meant that we shd. break up without doing something. A Committee he thought most likely to hit on some expedient. Mr. Govr. Mo
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Mr. Governr. Morris was opposed to a restriction of this right in either branch, considered merely in itself and as unconnected with the point of representation in the 2d. branch. It will disable the 2d. branch from proposing its own money plans, and giving the people an opportunity of judging by comparison of the merits of those proposed by the 1st. branch. Mr. Wilson could see nothing like a concession here on the part of the smaller States. If both branches were to say yes or no, it was of
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Col. Mason. In every Stage of the Question relative to the Executive, the difficulty of the subject and the diversity of the opinions concerning it have appeared. Nor have any of the modes of constituting that department been satisfactory. 1. It has been proposed that the election should be made by the people at large; that is that an act which ought to be performed by those who know most of Eminent characters, & qualifications, should be performed by those who know least. 2 that the election sh
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Mr Randolph then rose and with an allusion to the observations of Docr Franklin, apologized for his refusing to sign the Constitution, notwithstanding the vast majority & venerable names that would give sanction to its wisdom and its worth. He said however that he did not mean by this refusal to decide that he should oppose the Constitution without doors. He meant only to keep himself free to be governed by his duty as it should be prescribed by his future judgment — He refused to sign, because
'Mr. TUCKER then moved to insert these words, “to instruct their Representatives.” Mr. HARTLEY wished the motion had not been made, for gentlemen acquainted with the circumstances of this country, and the history of the country from which we separated, differed exceedingly on this point. The members of the House of Representatives, said he, are chosen for two years, the members of the Senate for six. According to the principles laid down in the Constitution, it is presumable that the pers
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'Mr. GERRY.—Gentlemen seem in a great hurry to get this business through. I think, Mr. Chairman, it requires a further discusion [sic]; for my part, I had rather do less business and do it well, then precipitate measures before they are fully understood. The honorable gentleman from Virginia (Mr. MADISON) stated, that if the proposed amendments are defeated, it will be by the delay attending the discussion of doubtful propositions; and he declares this to partake of that quality. It is natur
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'Mr. PAGE was sorry to see gentlemen so impatient; the more so, as he saw there was very little attention paid to any thing that was said; but he would express his sentiments if he was only heard by the Chair. He discovered clearly, notwithstanding what had been observed by the most ingenious supporters of the opposition, that there was an absolute necessity for adopting the amendment. It was strictly compatible with the spirit and the nature of the Government; all power vests in the people of t
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Mr. CHIDESTER. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, I do not deem it necessary to enter into a full discussion of this question now, for the reason that I believe that the question has been fully settled in the hearts and minds of the people. Notwithstanding the statements that have been made this morning, I believe that the question has been thoroughly ventilated, and that the people have virtually passed upon it. I believe when the platforms were adopted by the two political parties th
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Mr. ROBERTS. Mr. Chairman, I arise to a question of personal privilege. Some remarks which I made in the heat of discussion this morning were perhaps stronger than I would wish in referring to one of my colleagues, Mr. Ivins. I would not wish to lose a friend nor do him any injustice, and I therefore personally apologize to Mr. Ivins for anything offensive in my remarks. Mr. VARIAN. Mr. Chairman and gen-men of the committee, rarely have I had an opportunity of listening to such an oratorical ef
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Mr. CHIDESTER. Mr. President, I make the same objection to the motion as amended as I did before. Mr. IVINS. Mr. President, this seems to me like a very unusual proposition for more reasons than one. In the first place the amendment provides that this matter shall be submitted to a committee of five with instructions just what they are to do. Now, if that committee is to take this matter under advisement, with instructions to report an article providing for the separate submission of this matte
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The PRESIDENT. The question before the house is the recommittal of the proposition to a special committee. Mr. LEWIS. Mr. President, I propose to come to the question, if not directly, indirectly. I want to place myself properly before this Convention after the attitude that I have assumed. Talk about criminations and recriminations, there have also been insinuations, and I do not propose to stand under a single insinuation, if I have the privilege of placing myself properly before this Convent
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SPECIAL ORDERS. Mr. VARIAN. Are we now properly under the head of special order? The PRESIDENT. Yes, sir. The motion to reconsider is the motion properly before the house. Mr. VARIAN. Mr. President, as I desire to close the discussion, if there be one, I shall only make a preliminary statement. It was quite proper I thought on yesterday that a motion to reconsider should be made in order that every member of the Convention should have an opportunity to express his views upon this very importa
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